(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[1x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Youth Championship 2011 under 20 board 1 round 5]PW[Pavol Lisy]PB[Viktor Lin]WR[5d]BR[5d]DT[2011-03-13]RO[5]PC[Brno, Czech Republic]US[HW9x9]C[AndyCap [7k\]: HI Harry
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi^^
AndyCap [7k\]: laptops are ok now??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Firzen [3d\]: VIKTOR
Elitios [7k?\]: where can I find the results of the previous rounds?
fatih [2d\]: http://www.czech-go.net/eygc2011/results.php?lang=en
]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]C[Elitios [7k?\]: thx
]
;B[pp]
;W[dc]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[cf]
;W[cd]C[zizu [-\]: Pavol...
]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[pj]
;W[nc]
;B[pf]
;W[jd]
;B[jp]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[pq]
;B[oq]
;W[or]
;B[rq]
;W[rr]
;B[nr]
;W[rp]
;B[ro]
;W[op]
;B[nq]
;W[sq]
;B[pn]
;W[df]C[norgkost [3k\]: how does q6 protect from r5 ?
]
;B[pr]C[norgkost [3k\]: and how is q2 not gote aji-keshi?
Ukasuhs [2d\]: what other aji could be there?
]
;W[qr]C[norgkost [3k\]: ko threat
fatih [2d\]: simply c13
yugen [2k\]: yes you are right norgkost
]
;B[cg]
;W[ef]
;B[cj]
;W[dr]
;B[lc]
;W[qc]C[Liso66 [6k?\]: again 4 corner?
zizu [-\]: why not?:-)
]
;B[pc]C[Liso66 [6k?\]: against ali it worked... :) but I am afraid 
]
;W[pb]C[esko [1k\]: ali missed l5
zizu [-\]: cheater is better fighter, dont be...
esko [1k\]: both players left the board
]
;B[qd]C[fatih [2d\]: again 4 corners 
Liso66 [6k?\]: wtih ali one corner changed owner during the game ;)
]
;W[rb]
;B[rc]
;W[qb]
;B[nd]
;W[oc]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[md]C[zizu [-\]: banzaiii
LeT63 [-\]: the corners on the right are too small
Shaomi [3d\]: where should white play next?
]
;W[rn]C[zizu [-\]: invasion
fatih [2d\]: h3 maybe as he likes cash 
zizu [-\]: upper center has more priority
Shaomi [3d\]: i think if black can invade somewhere at h16 area and attack lone white stone it looks good no ?
LeT63 [-\]: or cap k14
]
;B[qn]
;W[so]C[zizu [-\]: tengen?
fatih [2d\]: whita has sente here 
fatih [2d\]: k14 seems big for both
Honeycake [3k\]: oh
Honeycake [3k\]: started earlier today?
]
;B[rd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
]
;W[mb]C[yugen [2k\]: is this move needed ??
AMLPoS [-\]: Where are the players from?
zizu [-\]: Viktor from Austria, Pavol form Slovakia
AMLPoS [-\]: Thanks
Honeycake [3k\]: viktoooor *fähnchien schwenk*
NorthWind [4k\]: B s7 urgent or yose ?
Kuzuryusen [2k\]: Neither I guess
zizu [-\]: S7 would be bit risky,no?
AMLPoS [-\]: L14 huh
Kuzuryusen [2k\]: The bad think is, that it is gote in my opinion
mate105 [1d\]: hello :D
mate105 [1d\]: today is the final day?
NorthWind [4k\]: n16 gote too
NorthWind [4k\]: sorry n18
Honeycake [3k\]: eurogo not at laptop ^^
zizu [-\]: eurogotv: black L14, white R7, black Q7
Spin [1d\]: j15
AMLPoS [-\]: I see that's why he's taking so long
zizu [-\]: and so on
fatih [2d\]: white takes right side in the stream 
AMLPoS [-\]: G15 for black
AMLPoS [-\]: D12 white
mate105 [1d\]: hmm it seems like the actual game has several moves ahead already
Honeycake [3k\]: harry making pictures ^^
Honeycake [3k\]: yes
zizu [-\]: this is annoying
MikeGering [?\]: ...
]
;B[kf]
;W[qm]C[Honeycake [3k\]: L14 R7 Q7 R8 Q8 R9  G15
]
;B[pm]
;W[ql]
;B[pl]
;W[qk]
;B[ge]
;W[dh]C[Honeycake [3k\]: harry welcome back ^^
esko [1k\]: up to date now
NorthWind [4k\]: I don't really understand why L14 gote is better than s7 gote for B
]
;B[dg]C[yugen [2k\]: mayne center moyo
yugen [2k\]: maybe
strong30k [1k\]: because s7 doesnt give moku????
strong30k [1k\]: s7 r5
zizu [-\]: S7 would be danger
]
;W[eg]
;B[eh]C[AMLPoS [-\]: wow, white plays fast
]
;W[di]C[zizu [-\]: he will gain all left:-)
mate105 [1d\]: fighting fighting :D
mate105 [1d\]: is this the leaders table?
strong30k [1k\]: b12 i think
Honeycake [3k\]: pavol playing fast
zizu [-\]: b11 better
strong30k [1k\]: no
]
;B[ee]
;W[gg]
;B[ch]
;W[jf]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[ed]C[Liso66 [6k?\]: w really quick
CBlue [?\]: wow, so artem will represent europe in the upcoming fujitu cup, that's pretty awesome
Liso66 [6k?\]: link?
gobugobu [6d\]: f15 is possible too
CBlue [?\]: http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/fc.html
gobugobu [6d\]: e16 is normally at f17 I think
Honeycake [3k\]: harry can you post the results
]
;B[fd]
;W[fc]
;B[gc]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: see my info
Honeycake [3k\]: ty
Tabemasu [-\]: B aim for h13?
]
;W[ei]C[psblue [4k\]: why not w F11?
Liso66 [6k?\]: cross my finger to artem - why he didnt come to brno?
Dupaaxe [?\]: Look like game over ? :o
Honeycake [3k\]: he cant qualify for something thyts why i think
]
;B[hg]C[Liso66 [6k?\]: is his father in Brno? I thougth he had booked hotel... (or is it other Kachanovsky?) Euro dont you know? 
]
;W[hf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is his father
madalina: playing in youth championship? lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: teamleader
madalina: artem is home, punished for eating too many cookies :)
Liso66 [6k?\]: interesting. Probably you could ask him why? If it is not secret it is interesting for eurogotv news too ;)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok
Liso66 [6k?\]: thnx
psblue [4k\]: what would white do if b F15 ?
Tabemasu [-\]: right now?
psblue [4k\]: yes
Tabemasu [-\]: g14 probably
psblue [4k\]: and if w D16?
psblue [4k\]: black D16
gobugobu [6d\]: B needed to play j15 first
Tabemasu [-\]: Would give up 2 psblue
]
;B[ie]C[psblue [4k\]: :)
Tabemasu [-\]: But if all B does it live he's running a little low on points
Tabemasu [-\]: is*
]
;W[ci]
;B[bi]
;W[bj]
;B[fg]
;W[ff]
;B[gf]
;W[fh]
;B[if]C[fatih [2d\]: too good for white imo 
LeT63 [-\]: clearly
]
;W[bk]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: W win if not fall to sleep
zizu [-\]: he looks tired
NorthWind [4k\]: W 4 corners seem to add up to maybe 40 pts. I guess B can still find enough
Backflash [10k\]: l9 right about now?
fatih [2d\]: f5 seems urgent 
]
;B[hh]
;W[pk]
;B[ok]
;W[qo]
;B[po]
;W[ol]C[Backflash [10k\]: b is doomed now =\\
zizu [-\]: white centre getting smaller and smaller
ptitlou [3d\]: r10 for the win !
Backflash [10k\]: is there any white center to begin with?
LeT63 [-\]: if r10 possible
Backflash [10k\]: b's lower left falls soon anyway
zikus [2k\]: gotta play p 11 
Liso66 [6k?\]: artem was online a little momentt :)
Tabemasu [-\]: why isn't artem at this tournament?
Liso66 [6k?\]: we are also curious probably euro tell us more in last game
Backflash [10k\]: exams mb? it is soon  in UA
Laman [1d\]: or U20 not enough interesting?
]
;B[qj]
;W[om]C[Backflash [10k\]: when EGC '11?
Kuzuryusen [2k\]: Eurogo, do you see the time by the way ?
]
;B[oo]
;W[np]
;B[no]
;W[mp]C[Tabemasu [-\]: I don't see how B can win
Backflash [10k\]: he can't
]
;B[mo]C[Tabemasu [-\]: Oh well that explains it :)
]
;W[lp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[rk]
;W[rl]
;B[sl]
;W[rm]
;B[lo]
;W[mr]C[NorthWind [4k\]: after trading away the left side, W has 70 pts so B has more to find
Tabemasu [-\]: W about 75 solid points
Tabemasu [-\]: +komi
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: + black will get time penaltys
Tabemasu [-\]: I see
Tabemasu [-\]: B about 40 solid
Tabemasu [-\]: But large potential, maybe he still has some chance
]
(;B[kp]
;W[mq]C[fanfan [4d\]: black center is larger than siberia
Kuzuryusen [2k\]: time penaltys ?
])
(;B[lr]
;W[mq]
;B[kp]
;W[kr]C[Backflash [10k\]: he can't keep it
fatih [2d\]: black has a huge center so it is still a game 
Tabemasu [-\]: It's hard to keep anyway
Tabemasu [-\]: But not over yet
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black lost 2 points on time
fatih [2d\]: how many mins does white have? 
]
;B[jr]
;W[ls]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 20
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: mAybe even 30
]
;B[gl]C[fatih [2d\]: thx 
Kuzuryusen [2k\]: Ah, it's this system were you have infinite time, but lose points for every x minutes after main time ?
aap [1d\]: no
Tabemasu [-\]: It actually doesn't seem so simple to get in the center
NorthWind [4k\]: B likes to trade but does he prfit enough from it ?
aap [1d\]: 60+3x10min
NorthWind [4k\]: profit
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, 3 extra periods of 10 min
]
;W[hj]
;B[gj]
;W[gi]
;B[hi]
;W[gk]
;B[hk]
;W[fj]
;B[ij]
;W[hl]
;B[gj]
;W[oj]C[Laman [1d\]: it is like absolute, but punishing you for using all your time
]
;B[nk]
;W[hj]C[yugen [2k\]: it is over
yugen [2k\]: OVER
aap [1d\]: j9
g19x19 [9k\]: n1
joachim [?\]: yugen cant stand the thrill ;-)
]
;B[kq]C[yugen [2k\]: YES JO
Maeglin [7k\]: ignore?
g19x19 [9k\]: nope
fanfan [4d\]: ignore
g19x19 [9k\]: p1 if ignor
fanfan [4d\]: too small
mhelvens [?\]: Becomes a bigger ko, no?
Maeglin [7k\]: think too
Canopi [6d\]: no, if ignore o1 is good
Pinguschaf [?\]: w can take easily
Meto [1d\]: j9 and next ko
NorthWind [4k\]: good morning artem :)
Tabemasu [-\]: Why aren't you playing artem?
]
;W[ns]C[fatih [2d\]: o1 i missed that move 
]
;B[gj]
;W[rj]C[g19x19 [9k\]: ignoreeee
Canopi [6d\]: hard to ignore that
zizu [-\]: cant
Maeglin [7k\]: ^^
Canopi [6d\]: if ignore, then q11  ^^
g19x19 [9k\]: so will take 30 points
g19x19 [9k\]: ko is bigger
Tabemasu [-\]: It's not about what's bigger
g19x19 [9k\]: if black g9
Tabemasu [-\]: It's about how you can win
g19x19 [9k\]: w need to asnwer
fanfan [4d\]: the is to win the game, not the ko
]
;B[ri]C[Welvang [7d\]: w should ignore l3 
]
;W[hj]C[aap [1d\]: j9?
Canopi [6d\]: white has plenty of threats that are big enough to win the game
Liso66 [6k?\]: why is j9 so bad?
Welvang [7d\]: j9 g7 f8 h6 
Welvang [7d\]: for example
Tabemasu [-\]: B simply not enough Liso
mihi [6d\]: w can't lose this 
Liso66 [6k?\]: thnx
fanfan [4d\]: j9 is bad if b has no enought points
Laman [1d\]: j9 is too submissive :)
Welvang [7d\]: if j9, black lose the game
g19x19 [9k\]: e3
aap [1d\]: t18?
mihi [6d\]: if b c3 white should capture 
g19x19 [9k\]: can kill s18?
fanfan [4d\]: if b J9, w wins
Stefany93 [8k\]: Could you please tell me what nationality is Pavol Lisy?
fanfan [4d\]: w will win the game
Liso66 [6k?\]: slovakia
Stefany93 [8k\]: Thank you Liso
aap [1d\]: if white wins, he wins the tournament?>
Liso66 [6k?\]: viktors time?
Mezzanyne [-\]: how young is youth?
Liso66 [6k?\]: 2-nd penalty?
Stefany93 [8k\]: Pavol is sexy :P
]
;B[dq]C[Stefany93 [8k\]: He will win
smileyface [1k\]: ignore?
Pinguschaf [?\]: i like that viktor keeps playing this ko
]
;W[cq]
;B[gj]
;W[qi]C[Laman [1d\]: does he have other choice?
]
;B[sj]
;W[hj]
;B[ik]
;W[gm]
;B[il]
;W[hm]C[NorthWind [4k\]: resign and go for a drink ?
]
;B[lb]C[Canopi [6d\]: pretty much
]
;W[gb]
;B[ec]
;W[pi]
;B[rj]
;W[fc]
;B[sb]
;W[oa]
;B[ec]
;W[rh]C[Welvang [7d\]: DON'T WORK
]
;B[qh]
;W[fc]C[Welvang [7d\]: oop caps :)
Welvang [7d\]: b has lost
mate105 [1d\]: i love sanrensei so b please win :D
]
;B[ra]
;W[qa]
;B[ec]C[Meto [1d\]: s13
]
;W[oi]
;B[rg]
;W[fc]C[zizu [-\]: lots of threats by white
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b 4 points penalty
Liso66 [6k?\]: last 10 minute to sudden death
Liso66 [6k?\]: ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not yet
NorthWind [4k\]: lol. this hasn't been B's best day.....next his car wont start
]
;B[gj]
;W[fl]
;B[ec]
;W[mk]C[Mezzanyne [-\]: or will blow up at this rate
]
;B[nl]
;W[fc]
;B[eq]
;W[fa]
;B[cr]
;W[br]
;B[cp]
;W[bq]
;B[do]
;W[ep]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R
mate105 [1d\]: 4 pts penalty?
zizu [-\]: haha
mate105 [1d\]: for overtime?
TonyTiger [5d?\]: gg
l9xl9 [-\]: thx for showing
Kuzuryusen [2k\]: thanks fpr the broadcast
Mezzanyne [-\]: thank you!!
mate105 [1d\]: ty
Liso66 [6k?\]: thanx pls ask artems father
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Artem has to study for the uni
Liso66 [6k?\]: thnx
Liso66 [6k?\]: what about lukas podpera?
Liso66 [6k?\]: won?
Liso66 [6k?\]: or playing
Liso66 [6k?\]: ?
Liso66 [6k?\]: ali won, lukas (p) won, alexander won, nikola roman - still playing
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