(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[1x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Youth Championship 2011 under 20 board 1 round 6]PW[Alexander Eerbeek]PB[Pavol Lisy]WR[4d]BR[5d]DT[2011-03-13]RO[6]PC[Brno, Czech]US[HW9x9]
;B[qd]C[AndyCap [7k\]: hi Harry
aap [1d\]: ALEXANDER
ManOfLOL [8k\]: hello andycap
ManOfLOL [8k\]: not at the pub i see
AndyCap [7k\]: me??
aap [1d\]: alexander eerbeek is Big2 on kgs
Jinni [2k\]: this is for the title?
ManOfLOL [8k\]: yes
ManOfLOL [8k\]: lol
AndyCap [7k\]: kidding....
ManOfLOL [8k\]: lol used to read andy capp ^^
]
;W[dp]
;B[pp]
;W[dc]
;B[oc]C[AndyCap [7k\]: you plug then, i plant then (undertaker)
AndyCap [7k\]: them*
AndyCap [7k\]: one of his commics....
]
;W[qn]
;B[nq]C[Liso66 [6k?\]: is title decided also in this pairing? 
Liso66 [6k?\]: euro dou you know? 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think yes
Liso66 [6k?\]: is really sdos first criteria?
AndyCap [7k\]: but not for Alexander
]
;W[rp]
;B[qm]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;W[rm]
;B[rn]
;W[ro]
;B[pn]
;W[sn]
;B[ql]
;W[qq]
;B[de]
;W[cg]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[cd]
;W[gc]
;B[eb]
;W[db]
;B[dg]
;W[ch]
;B[cf]
;W[dh]
;B[eg]
;W[eh]
;B[fg]C[AndyCap [7k\]: problems over Harry?
]
;W[ec]
;B[dk]
;W[fh]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, the ip of this hotel was blocked
]
;B[cn]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but thanks to bolbi everything is ok now
]
;W[gg]C[AndyCap [7k\]: nice, ok
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;B[fe]
;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[fp]C[Uberdude [2d\]: i like w
Kmar [2d\]: youth = ?
]
;B[gh]C[AndyCap [7k\]: under 20
FIVExgame: under20
Kmar [2d\]: ty
AndyCap [7k\]: in this tournement
AndyCap [7k\]: it was under 18
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx AndyCap for your assistence!
AndyCap [7k\]: my pleasure :)
yonka: p2
Minosata [12k?\]: Hi all
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi Minosata we were all waiting for you
Javaness [3d\]: feels like black is cheating
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yeah, he is a cheater
Jinni [2k\]: cheaters never something
]
;W[gi]
;B[hh]
;W[hi]
;B[ih]C[aap [1d\]: he gone to another room to play out the sequence
Javaness [3d\]: white is pushing from behind
Javaness [3d\]: black potential grows
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in fact; he is THE cheater
LeT63 [-\]: b9
aap [1d\]: lool
]
;W[fk]C[aap [1d\]: Javaness [3d\]: white is pushing from behind Javaness [3d\]: black potential grows
]
;B[fn]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: what Javaness 3d?
Javaness [3d\]: no I am only 1d
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is he getting lessons from mr Pop or what?
]
;W[ii]
;B[jh]
;W[kj]
;B[li]C[Javaness [3d\]: no guojuan :)
]
;W[lj]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Javaness [3d\]: how can white play like this
]
;B[mi]C[Javaness [3d\]: J17 airport
]
;W[ho]
;B[cj]
;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[bo]
;B[fl]
;W[gl]
;B[ek]C[Kachnak [2d\]: airport? u sure?
Javaness [3d\]: it's my feeling
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;W[gk]
;B[gm]
;W[hm]C[Javaness [3d\]: does black have time to play iy ^_^
]
;B[ic]C[Javaness [3d\]: Mr Lisy agrees
Javaness [3d\]: you could fit a small family into black's moyo
senno [-\]: looks like w is as good as lost
vdb1 [2k\]: s16?
senno [-\]: s16 will tae the corner in gote
]
;W[bc]C[MPU [5k\]: Does anybody knows the nickname of both players at kgs?
A1R [2k\]: b = cheater
AdrianMonk [5d\]: w is milanmilan
senno [-\]: really cheater is Pavol?
A1R [2k\]: sure
]
;B[hd]C[MPU [5k\]: thx
Dupaaxe [?\]: ??? milan is chinesse
Javaness [3d\]: I heard Lisy was smartrobot
AlexOss [2k\]: "alexander eerbeek is Big2 on kgs"
Dupaaxe [?\]: smartrobot chinesse too
]
;W[el]C[Javaness [3d\]: so how to live here
Kmar [2d\]: u have to make 2 eyes to live
Kmar [2d\]: =)
AdrianMonk [5d\]: sound advice
Kmar [2d\]: have been told this way... :)
Firzen [3d\]: might kill ^^
Javaness [3d\]: black can always ko
]
;B[fm]C[Warlord [-\]: how did lukan do?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: won
Warlord [-\]: thx
]
;W[bl]C[A1R [2k\]: time?
]
;B[cm]C[Firzen [3d\]: b9
LeT63 [-\]: looks b dead
aap [1d\]: no
aap [1d\]: b has e5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: alive i think
Javaness [3d\]: E10 too
Firzen [3d\]: e10 e11
Laza [6d\]: b sems alive
Laza [6d\]: seems
aap [1d\]: killing is a delicate thing
]
;W[em]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hmm
senno [-\]: a7 b9 would be alive
aap [1d\]: lol
Firzen [3d\]: that's why white can play b9 first
]
;B[dl]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b9 now
Laza [6d\]: what's pavol's kgs acc?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cheater
aap [1d\]: white's account is big2
]
;W[bk]
;B[bj]
;W[am]C[Laza [6d\]: aha
Laza [6d\]: thx
stormc [9k\]: what are their ranks on kgs?
grimmjow1 [1d\]: b12 alive ?
]
;B[ej]C[aap [1d\]: 5d and 7d i believe
Firzen [3d\]: e11 now
Laza [6d\]: e11 c11 d11 b12 
Firzen [3d\]: probably g6 first
senno [-\]: e11 seems the only way
Firzen [3d\]: thanks Laza
Laza [6d\]: np :)
turk [7d\]: why did B not play a7 instead of c7?
Firzen [3d\]: what if w a12?
Firzen [3d\]: xD
Mukti [4d\]: E11 seems lethal.
aap [1d\]: if b lives
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Wf11 Bd11 Wc9!
aap [1d\]: kghin
aap [1d\]: can you kill black for us please
Mukti [4d\]: That does not work Euro
Mukti [4d\]: after C9 A10 is b sente
Mukti [4d\]: so he can connect underneatj
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ah, ic
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so white must try to connect himself at the left first
Firzen [3d\]: hm
turk [7d\]: e11, B f10, then B has n6
Mukti [4d\]: w needs toavoid having to play C9 so he must keep the eye false
turk [7d\]: h6
yonka: still empty p2?
turk [7d\]: not n6
Laman [1d\]: does E11 work? w E11, b F10, w F11, b G10 and ataris his way out
alkaaa: EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Wf11 Bd11 Wc9! .. ba10,waž,bb+š
Firzen [3d\]: ko I guess
aap [1d\]: if b lives, white has no chance to win
alkaaa: EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Wf11 Bd11 Wc9!..ba10,wa6,bb13
Mukti [4d\]: E11 leaves a big weakness, indeed. But w played so badly in pushing black at the top that he needs someting drastic to get back in the game.
Firzen [3d\]: I call ko
aap [1d\]: i raise for b live
]
;W[fi]
;B[di]C[Mukti [4d\]: Sigh
aap [1d\]: i win
senno [-\]: alive....
Firzen [3d\]: oh
Mukti [4d\]: Now w lost his one chance...
Kachnak [2d\]: c11 
Firzen [3d\]: c11
Firzen [3d\]: lol
A1R [2k\]: didnt he play c11
Octavian [6k\]: not alive yet is it
Octavian [6k\]: ?
Ryokitsu [10k\]: not yet
Mukti [4d\]: C11-B10
yunfan1985 [3d\]: c11 
Canopi [6d\]: it lives
Octavian [6k\]: ok
Mukti [4d\]: C11-B10-B8-B13 connected
Ryokitsu [10k\]: ok 
]
;W[lq]C[Laman [1d\]: B10 already on the board
vdb1 [2k\]: so is B8
Octavian [6k\]: and b8
senno [-\]: c11 c9 e11 a10 a8 b13 ?
pancake [3d\]: GO ALEX \\o/
]
;B[rl]C[aap [1d\]: r12
aap [1d\]: or something
aap [1d\]: s16
Mukti [4d\]: Actually, i had a good look, and black's connection does not work well
Backflash [10k\]: n7 
watayasu [4k\]: o9
Mukti [4d\]: So w can still go for the kill
Javaness [3d\]: Airport!
watayasu [4k\]: o9
]
;W[pm]C[watayasu [4k\]: o9
Laman [1d\]: what does the airport mean (in a game of go)?
vdb1 [2k\]: yes B A10 only treatens to link not to take B8
]
;B[lp]C[bikle [5k\]: What do you mean by airport Javaness ?
Thoravatar [2d\]: large moyo that is almost territory
Mukti [4d\]: It does after b plays C9 and w must answer at E11
bikle [5k\]: Yes of course
]
;W[kp]C[A1R [2k\]: cut?
vdb1 [2k\]: A firts a trow in at A8, I overlooked
yonka: soo young is such a lerk
]
;B[mp]
;W[kq]
;B[on]
;W[pl]
;B[qj]
;W[nl]C[avio [2d\]: senno, c11 c9 e11 a10 a8 b13 ? but after b13 w can get a ko at b18?
]
;B[pq]C[yonka: an insult to sai
yonka: how insulting
]
;W[ln]C[iiiHei [4k\]: Black D10 seems not alive?
]
;B[qr]
;W[rr]
;B[qp]C[zampa [3k\]: my thought exactly..
]
;W[rq]
;B[or]C[pancake [3d\]: it is I think
Warlord [-\]: it is
taru [1k?\]: i think it is
marfg [1k\]: alive
LeT63 [-\]: now w invade
zampa [3k\]: if white plays first i dont see how black can get a second eye.
marfg [1k\]: r15
]
;W[qs]
;B[qo]C[yonka: brb
]
;W[rn]
;B[pk]C[A1R [2k\]: massive moyo
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
iiiHei [4k\]: yes, white first can defintely destroy black's eyes
LeT63 [-\]: turns to terr
iiiHei [4k\]: 1 eye only
LeT63 [-\]: bet iii?
]
;W[nm]C[bikle [5k\]: Zampa w should start with C11?
]
;B[lo]C[iiiHei [4k\]: white start with C11?
iiiHei [4k\]: yes
]
;W[rd]C[zampa [3k\]: i would.
bikle [5k\]: Yes
stormc [9k\]: black wil force white to play C9, does'nt that result ina throw in?
LeT63 [-\]: c11 c9
Backflash [10k\]: e11 
]
;B[qc]C[bert [2d\]: u would both lose
Backflash [10k\]: it is dead
LeT63 [-\]: a10
Backflash [10k\]: w don need to start anything
Warlord [-\]: it is not, get over it
zampa [3k\]: no. one liberty too short for it.  for a throw in that is.
Warlord [-\]: A10 is sente for connection underneath so, there you go
pancake [3d\]: it is alive, if white tries to kill, black has a10 in sente and can connect with b13
]
;W[qh]C[iiiHei [4k\]: IC!
stormc [9k\]: :)
chrpa [1d\]: and white cannot cut later with b14
]
;B[oi]C[zampa [3k\]: b13? hmm
bert [2d\]: as has been explained several times already
zampa [3k\]: very true. 
Jjaz [2k\]: if white cut in b14 black make his second eye
avio [2d\]: I see a ko for the b17 stone
cuvaca [5d\]: w s10
chrpa [1d\]: not really avio - try atari atari atari
avio [2d\]: white cuts at b14 than plays b15
]
;W[oh]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: how will black answer to Wb16?
]
;B[pi]
;W[nh]C[bert [2d\]: b15
avio [2d\]: wb16 bb16 wins
]
;B[mj]C[A1R [2k\]: how did Lukas?
]
;W[qe]C[GoShinobi [-\]: eurogo did lukas or viktor win ?
Mukti [4d\]: I aslo thought so, Chrpa, but on second thought w can cut with b12, a12, atari, connect, white A15, b a16, w atari
avio [2d\]: but if w b15, black b16 and w a16 looks like ko
]
;B[rf]C[Noishe [4k\]: C 11
Noishe [4k\]: kill
Mukti [4d\]: That would cause b to have to yield three stones which is huge
blackmoa [2k\]: avio, its no ko
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Viktor lost and Lukas won
A1R [2k\]: he asked for us....nice
A1R [2k\]: thx
AdrianMonk [5d\]: Vanessa won?
GoShinobi [-\]: poor viktor 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Vanessa won
chrpa [1d\]: go lukan
]
;W[re]
;B[rh]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Lukas Podpera won a long time ago allready
]
;W[jc]C[Noishe [4k\]: C11 not kill black?
]
;B[jd]C[blackmoa [2k\]: ..........
]
;W[kc]
;B[ib]C[CrimsonEye [1k?\]: bit off topic but I have a question. Is eurogotv1 the same person every time or do they change?
]
;W[qf]
;B[rg]C[chrpa [1d\]: have look at previous comments noishe :)
Noishe [4k\]: thanks :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: mostly me but sometimes other people use the account
chrpa [1d\]: it was topic there for all game
]
;W[rc]
;B[rb]C[avio [2d\]: Mukti, after w a15 black plays b16 not a16, and ko
CrimsonEye [1k?\]: Aright XD, I always watch eurogotv1 he seems the most cool and fun. lol
Mukti [4d\]: I meant B16, but I fail to see the ko
Mukti [4d\]: I will have another look
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^, these comments almost give you extra VIPpoints
CrimsonEye [1k?\]: "almost"
CrimsonEye [1k?\]: XD
blackmoa [2k\]: ther is no ko avio
blackmoa [2k\]: well black can choose to play one 
blackmoa [2k\]: but theres no need
]
;W[nd]
;B[nc]
;W[md]C[Mukti [4d\]: OK, I see the ko, but w can just take 3 stones, even better than ko I feel.
]
;B[mc]C[avio [2d\]: after black b16, w a16, b b18 and if w connects black connects
CptHook [5k\]: r18?
yonka: ew how did w?
verymerry [6k\]: youth?
verymerry [6k\]: how old are these players?
avio [2d\]: I have it in the KGS Teaching Ladder room
A1R [2k\]: u20
RaikaT: Says "under 20"
verymerry [6k\]: avio you  have 3 things open in kgs
verymerry [6k\]: and no sugar sherlock...is ays under 20
avio [2d\]: black moa, tell me where I'm wrong, please
verymerry [6k\]: however that leaves a wide range still
Backflash [10k\]: l5 ouch
verymerry [6k\]: they could be 1 years old for all i know...instead of pascifiers their parents gave them go stones
yonka: t18 first the m17
Backflash [10k\]: verymerry sugar is essential for brain activity btw
bert [2d\]: i think r14 was a mistake
Warlord [-\]: how are they on time?
mmmd [-\]: if sugar was essentiel for brain activity, how would a carnivore brain work ?
]
;W[pg]
;B[od]
;W[oe]C[bikle [5k\]: On sugar
avio [2d\]: thanks Mukti, black is in deep shit if w plays first
blackmoa [2k\]: mmd, sugar is essential for brain activity
stormc [9k\]: eating beasts whits sugar in their blood :)
Backflash [10k\]: sugar is everywhere
Ananda [2k\]: n14 
]
;B[mg]C[verymerry [6k\]: avio...language
Cryxnoob [6k\]: just drink a coke while eating flesh :)
blackmoa [2k\]: you need sugar to produce ATP, and you need ATP for your brain
bikle [5k\]: Mtabolic pathway for sugar
bikle [5k\]: sorry metabolic
Dita [2d?\]: not easy for w
blackmoa [2k\]: otehrwise the ion concentration in the cells would change and you wouldnt be able to process any informations anymore
]
;W[nf]
;B[mf]C[Cryxnoob [6k\]: I'd still take the coke
verydrunk [-\]: There is sugar in alcohol!!
Backflash [10k\]: alcohil made of sugar
blackmoa [2k\]: btw sugar is stored in the cells of animals as glycogen, so carnivores have no problem getting sugar ;)
]
;W[sb]
;B[qb]C[bikle [5k\]: No sugar in alcohol
]
;W[ld]C[CrimsonEye [1k?\]: i dont see life for white but im a noob.
verydrunk [-\]: Sugary alcohol followed by a carnivore (sloppy ) kebab good night out..(however your insides would disagree)
CptHook [5k\]: i dont see 2 eyes maybe one
]
;B[lb]C[yonka: aw
Ananda [2k\]: maybe :)
Laman [1d\]: by the way, eurogo, will there again be betting on next move some time?
bert [2d\]: w can live given 3 consecutive moves
verydrunk [-\]: Bikle...what is the key ingridence in RUM?
A1R [2k\]: kinda dead
nodan [2d\]: does w c11 kill?
Cryxnoob [6k\]: yes
bikle [5k\]: Water verydrunk
Cryxnoob [6k\]: ...
Dita [2d?\]: w can live with 2 moves if black ignore s:)
CrimsonEye [1k?\]: yeah and c9 saves
blackmoa [2k\]: alcohol has no sugar, but alcoholic drinks contain sugar ;)
verydrunk [-\]: Rum is made from sugar cane!!
Ananda [2k\]: c11 doesnt kill
stormc [9k\]: definition arguments my favourite .. :P
alkaaa: nodan [2d\] > no
nodan [2d\]: why not?
CrimsonEye [1k?\]: why not?
CrimsonEye [1k?\]: i agree
Ananda [2k\]: c11 c9 e11 a10 a8 b13 
]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]C[Backflash [10k\]: alcohol is made by sugar guys google it, my grandma made moonshine of sugar water and corn
CrimsonEye [1k?\]: ah
nicat [2k\]: wat een prutser
alkaaa: nodan [2d\]  c11,a10,a6,b13
bert [2d\]: good ananda
]
;W[je]C[blackmoa [2k\]: the alcohol you enjoy drinking is C3H5OH, no sugar in that ;)
]
;B[kf]C[blackmoa [2k\]: *C2
Ananda [2k\]: it wasnt me it was commented before
yonka: 70%
yonka: pro stuff
]
;W[gd]C[Warlord [-\]: white ought to consider throwing in the towel
bikle [5k\]: Alcohol is a C2
]
;B[ge]C[aap [1d\]: j15
blackmoa [2k\]: yea i made a typo ;)
Cryxnoob [6k\]: that would be ethanol, alcohol ist just a general term
verydrunk [-\]: sorry...what is alkaaa saying?
blackmoa [2k\]: and well alcohol can be any numebr of Cs
verydrunk [-\]: that sequence seems odd
Liso66 [6k?\]: whats about time?
blackmoa [2k\]: but we only drink Ethanol which is a C2
bikle [5k\]: derived form alkane
Cryxnoob [6k\]: hopefully ;)
Liso66 [6k?\]: nobodys playing around
yonka: aaaaaaaahhhhhhh
verydrunk [-\]: you only drink ethanol which is C2. i drink the ethanol use in hand wash if i'm desperate enough lol
andreiraz [2k\]: lol
CptHook [5k\]: i checked out if w plays c11 and lost o14 still wins for 2 points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R
andreiraz [2k\]: lol
Dupaaxe [?\]: Pavol is unhappy 
blackmoa [2k\]: and to get back to sugar: from one mol of sugar you can get two mols of ethanol, ATP and CO2 ;)
verydrunk [-\]: blackmoa...i don't think anyone actually cares!
Liso66 [6k?\]: why unhapy?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx for watching all
Backflash [10k\]: i do:)
verydrunk [-\]: B resigned okay
Liso66 [6k?\]: thanx for broadcast
yonka: cool game
verydrunk [-\]: b won by resign
verydrunk [-\]: okay
andreiraz [2k\]: at u12 what do silvestru ?
yonka: but white resign way to late
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he lost last round
andreiraz [2k\]: ok
andreiraz [2k\]: ty
sutex [-\]: http://www.czech-go.net/eygc2011/results.php?lang=en
qgo [3k\]: thanks Euro
andreiraz [2k\]: will you atend at shusaku cup?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you will all come to the Shusaku Cup this year?
Warlord [-\]: yay black new uber champ :)
Cryxnoob [6k\]: thx euro
andreiraz [2k\]: yes i do ^_^
andreiraz [2k\]: you will came?
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