(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian] GN[Strasbourg international third place final]PW[Gilles VAN EEDEN]PB[Jan HORA]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2011-05-15]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/] ;B[qd] ;W[dd] ;B[dp] ;W[pq] ;B[oc] ;W[qo] ;B[jq]C[loikun [5k\]: http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats, with bio of players and tournament brackets loikun [5k\]: sorry, it is: http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ StrasChp2 [-\]: hi StrasChp2 [-\]: let's kibitz ] ;W[lq]C[Prym [-\]: It would be nice to update http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/strasbourg2011.html ] ;B[cn] ;W[hq]C[StrasChp2 [-\]: or is everyone on cho/dai's game? :( ] ;B[qj]C[pancake [3d\]: go Gilles :) drchaos [3k\]: j aime bien la position de noir drchaos [3k\]: l extension "parfaite" loikun [5k\]: yes 3 times more people on the finals StrasChp2 [-\]: ^^ drchaos [3k\]: q11 Uberdude [3d\]: i prefer black alreadyt q11 [2d\]: you called? StrasChp2 [-\]: hm it's hard to tell StrasChp2 [-\]: but it could be difficult to use h3 ] ;W[er]C[drchaos [3k\]: so low StrasChp2 [-\]: interesting move drchaos [3k\]: tenuki StrasChp2 [-\]: if tenuki the san san would be too big StrasChp2 [-\]: i guess..^^ badaji [1d\]: 3-3 will result in gote StrasChp2 [-\]: but then e2 is alive and k3 is useless StrasChp2 [-\]: and its big q11 [2d\]: d3 ] ;B[dr] ;W[dq] ;B[cq] ;W[eq]C[q11 [2d\]: and it is not clear that was a good exchange for w ] ;B[cr]C[q11 [2d\]: i don't think d2 is so good as w can wedge and b can't resist at e3 Javaness [3d\]: K17 Prym [-\]: Les pairing de cette dernière ronde ne sont affichés nulle part ? StrasChp2 [-\]: hm je ne sais pas ] ;W[fo]C[Prym [-\]: Thomas D. joue contre qui ? ] ;B[jo] ;W[do]C[StrasChp2 [-\]: frefik blombak StrasChp2 [-\]: fredrik ] ;B[cp]C[Prym [-\]: Merci StrasChp2 [-\]: il est en forme en ce moment fredrik donc ça va être dur StrasChp2 [-\]: il y a les pairing sur strchp1 vient on de m'informer ] ;W[lo] ;B[ho]C[Prym [-\]: Euh, ca veut dire quoi, "sur strchp1" ? StrasChp2 [-\]: la partie de la finale^^ Prym [-\]: Ah oui, il est en train de les reciter un par un... ] ;W[fm] ;B[il]C[go1d [6d\]: tanguy a fait quoi comme résultats svp ? StrasChp2 [-\]: 1 victoire StrasChp2 [-\]: et 2 défaites StrasChp2 [-\]: contre jan hora et jan prokop je crois go1d [6d\]: ok go1d [6d\]: ( merci ) StrasChp2 [-\]: de rien :) il joue contre jean-lou mtnt go1d [6d\]: le 4d ? StrasChp2 [-\]: 3d go1d [6d\]: ok go1d [6d\]: tiens moi au courant :p StrasChp2 [-\]: oui, il est à côté la :) ] ;W[dm]C[go1d [6d\]: haha ] ;B[cm] ;W[dl] ;B[cl] ;W[dj] ;B[ck] ;W[fj] ;B[ci] ;W[ij] ;B[gq]C[loikun [5k\]: Pairing of last round in "Table of all results" at http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ , with top players' bio and tournament brackets. ] ;W[gp] ;B[hp] ;W[iq] ;B[kq] ;W[ip] ;B[io] ;W[gr] ;B[lr]C[loikun [5k\]: not too much kibitz here, kevin ] ;W[jp]C[StrasChp2 [-\]: :o StrasChp2 [-\]: how do you know ] ;B[kp] ;W[ko] ;B[lp]C[loikun [5k\]: but more after the blitz final. Because i am the guy in the next room who upload results on the website and help you set up this game demonstration :) StrasChp2 [-\]: ooh marc? =) loikun [5k\]: no, loic (kun) StrasChp2 [-\]: a*h oui oui q11 [2d\]: seems like w needs n5 q11 [2d\]: but would rather be able to plan l9 or l8 StrasChp2 [-\]: yeah StrasChp2 [-\]: you're right :) ] ;W[mo] ;B[kl] ;W[kj]C[StrasChp2 [-\]: i thought w would k9 and then m9 etc ] ;B[ml] ;W[pk] ;B[pj] ;W[nk] ;B[lj] ;W[oj] ;B[ki] ;W[jm]C[q11 [2d\]: k10 q11 [2d\]: losing 4 not a big deal googlebear [2k\]: l7 StrasChp2 [-\]: r9 is quite big too ] ;B[jj]C[loikun [5k\]: StrasChp2: it should have be better you noting the finals :) loikun [5k\]: oh Dai resigns Hanne [2k?\]: dai died StrasChp2 [-\]: welcome everyone :) daladim [1d\]: hey StrasChp2 [-\]: you are lucky, this will be a very long game^^ daladim [1d\]: ^^ StrasChp2 [-\]: jan went out mw5k [1k?\]: losing those four stones seems like a huge deal StrasChp2 [-\]: why? StrasChp2 [-\]: doesn't look that big izgonjes [6d\]: s9 looks now like good move izgonjes [6d\]: r9 ] ;W[jk]C[StrasChp2 [-\]: yes r9 is a big point StrasChp2 [-\]: this isn't small either goren2 [6k\]: k8? mw5k [1k?\]: i don't know straschp2, but it seems like if w can cap those 4 stones then he can start considering moves like n3 gryn [1k\]: b fell down StrasChp2 [-\]: yes n3 is getting dangerous mw5k [1k?\]: someone needs to put a "Fall Hazard" bracelet on him izgonjes [6d\]: ponuki would be super shape for w. if w connect in k8 also big. ] ;B[kk] ;W[jl] ;B[ii] ;W[ik] ;B[qk] ;W[pl] ;B[oi]C[izgonjes [6d\]: w happy with that result - but its big gote StrasChp2 [-\]: yes StrasChp2 [-\]: and b got r9 mw5k [1k?\]: i wouldn't be satisifed with this result as b izgonjes [6d\]: b play in sente bigger moves StrasChp2 [-\]: w is looking at n3 :) tomason [2k\]: Is L3 dead or alive? StrasChp2 [-\]: b too :) izgonjes [6d\]: l3 alive easy izgonjes [6d\]: problem for w is bright area on fifth line. izgonjes [6d\]: right* Konokon [7k?\]: why doesnt b go n 3? jkkl: cause its white turn Konokon [7k?\]: well obvisouly mw5k [1k?\]: because he chose to create a large upper right believing he will be able to live on the ottom mw5k [1k?\]: if he played n3 it would be too passive Konokon [7k?\]: ohhh StrasChp2 [-\]: b 35 min left donGoku [3k\]: W n3 n2 o3 o2 j2 h2 j1 StrasChp2 [-\]: w 13 donGoku [3k\]: b can live without n3 Tasky [1d\]: who won final? izgonjes [6d\]: lee chang ho goren2 [6k\]: I like black - he has the potential of making good moyo on top left jkkl: CHo Seokbin Murugandi [6d\]: ajax goren2 [6k\]: point wise - about 50 or so each Liso66 [5k\]: black wonn go1d [6d\]: ?? ] ;W[nr]C[donGoku [3k\]: funny 6 dans :) izgonjes [6d\]: smart :) Konokon [7k?\]: izgonjes was 7d so doesnt count Tasky [1d\]: still looks like can live to me SqueezeIt [1d\]: how? donGoku [3k\]: i was 7k too :) Tasky [1d\]: k2 Konokon [7k?\]: isnt it great :"D SqueezeIt [1d\]: k2 doesn't seem to work to me donGoku [3k\]: 6k greater ^^ daladim [1d\]: really great indeed ^_^ Konokon [7k?\]: er ;) liquescens [1k\]: k2 h2 StrasChp2 [-\]: b has some trouble donGoku [3k\]: n2 jkkl: k16 izgonjes [6d\]: yeah - this is looks stil alive :> ToDie [4d\]: j16 izgonjes [6d\]: j9 slow StrasChp2 [-\]: we don't know StrasChp2 [-\]: he said he lost ErgoProxy [6d\]: maybe he is good at counting niark [3d\]: qui perd? FeGo [3d\]: i think w could still have win goren2 [6k\]: this game was fixed... ] ;B[jr]C[Tasky [1d\]: n2 h2 miai ] ;W[ir]C[izgonjes [6d\]: n2 ] ;B[mr]C[mw5k [1k?\]: n2 l1 izgonjes [6d\]: b alive Konokon [7k?\]: man 6ds make alot better mvoes when they dont blitz go1d [6d\]: why did he resign --' ] ;W[nq] ;B[mq] ;W[ni]C[Tasky [1d\]: hane! ShapeMaker [7k\]: lol ] ;B[nh]C[Tasky [1d\]: another one! ^^ Javaness [3d\]: black has better potential mw5k [1k?\]: w has group to attack? lamalama: which one :D Tasky [1d\]: all b's stones strong izgonjes [6d\]: k16 is big st21 [-\]: f17 Songe [2k\]: K extension looks very big now Tasky [1d\]: is high or low better in this case for w? Songe [2k\]: my question atm :p kaaa [3d\]: where can i found the results¿ Tasky [1d\]: I suppose if low b can press from above and make moyo ShapeMaker [7k\]: here. in about one hour daladim [1d\]: http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ ] ;W[qe] ;B[pd] ;W[rd]C[Songe [2k\]: o_O ranyee [6k\]: what is going on? ] ;B[rc]C[ShapeMaker [7k\]: what the...? ranyee [6k\]: time mashine? StrasChp2 [-\]: dai showed this Karlindra [20k\]: he tryed out something ] ;W[oh] ;B[pi]C[StrasChp2 [-\]: dai Junfu's sequence ] ;W[ng] ;B[mh] ;W[ph]C[izgonjes [6d\]: like i said w problem is b right :) and he know that - so if he alive - game over odolany [4k\]: r13 ] ;B[qh] ;W[qg]C[Songe [2k\]: I surely cannot evaluate all the potential, but R8 seems like a tennozan here to me ] ;B[pg] ;W[og] ;B[rg]C[izgonjes [6d\]: take and escape ] ;W[pf] ;B[rf] ;W[rh] ;B[qi]C[izgonjes [6d\]: r8 sente ] ;W[mg]C[Konokon [7k?\]: this is going to be a hard game for black lamalama: you mean white:D izgonjes [6d\]: why white ? lamalama: i prefer black izgonjes [6d\]: w is leading profan [-\]: tenuki ^^ k16! ] ;B[ql]C[Konokon [7k?\]: w lived inside hes big moyo StrasChp2 [-\]: that hurts :p izgonjes [6d\]: yeah - w sould play this Konokon [7k?\]: b is going to have trouble Grimley [2d\]: if white r8, black can play n11 in sente? StrasChp2 [-\]: w said it was a big point izgonjes [6d\]: dont like n13 profan [-\]: game is close and nice ^^ Konokon [7k?\]: HAND OF GOOOD Konokon [7k?\]: lol jk StrasChp2 [-\]: just to make the game longer StrasChp2 [-\]: w is in trouble lamalama: i told you :P izgonjes [6d\]: because fail Konokon [7k?\]: woudnt black have to make his k 10 gruop run soon ? StrasChp2 [-\]: oh w resigns lamalama: hmm:)) izgonjes [6d\]: lol Tasky [1d\]: wtf? lamalama: told you ToDie [4d\]: heh? ErgoProxy [6d\]: huuh izgonjes [6d\]: lol... Karlindra [20k\]: ^^ ToDie [4d\]: are you joking? StrasChp2 [-\]: no.. Konokon [7k?\]: wait wut? izgonjes [6d\]: funny end... Konokon [7k?\]: mabye he had to go to the bathroom realy bad Konokon [7k?\]: and was on ToDie [4d\]: maybe he is hungry Konokon [7k?\]: blitz izgonjes [6d\]: not 6dan spirit izgonjes [6d\]: game was ok lamalama: in my books the game is balanced, but white will have to run izgonjes [6d\]: show r8 w izgonjes [6d\]: not n13 StrasChp2 [-\]: bye ])